“We can get spectacular results thanks to protocols put in place”

While thirty-two minors living in Kurdish camps joined France, Tuesday, September 24, the Secretary of State for Children, Charlotte Caubel, details, in an interview with the “world”, the evolution of Multidisciplinary protocol for monitoring these children.

words collected by Christophe Ayad

Thirty-two children and fifteen French women were repatriated from the Syrian camps to France on Tuesday, January 24. These returns bring to 295 the number of minors returning from the Iraqi-Syrian zone supported by the State services.

Former magistrate responsible for the judicial protection of youth (PJJ), ex-advisor justice from Edouard Philippe in Matigon, Charlotte Caubel has been secretary of state for childhood since May 2022. She justifies the host policy Established by France, while Paris was sentenced last week by the United Nations Committee (UN) against torture, seized in 2019 by families, for “inhuman or degrading treatments” of women and children who have remained In Syria.

What do you think of the change in policy concerning French women alleged jihadists and their children with the organization of massive returns since July 2022?

We have always indicated that these minors are not responsible for the radicality of their parents. They did not choose to go there, they are French, they are minors, they are entitled to protection. I have no state of soul on this. I say it all the more easily since the associations of victims of terrorism also say it.

have security imperatives changed?

They stay the same. You have to pay attention to the conditions of repatriation on site which are more and more complex because the situation deteriorates. Especially since there is a necessary process of identifying French nationals on site, in the camps. I also insist on the fact that we cannot bring children without the agreement of the mother. And finally, we are not within the framework of extradition procedures.

We work upstream to allow the best possible welcome. We are in a good dynamic now. Our experience is highly regarded by our neighbors.

Do you fear rejection reactions in France?

It was important to reassure and secure our fellow citizens. It is the responsibility of the State to be attentive to welcoming families: it is necessary to rule out any possible risk of subsequent radicalization of children. I am also very attentive to what the feedback does not arouse the stigma of these children who would put them in the ban of our society.

In fact, we did not have a negative reaction on this subject, it is due to the fact that the returns were very prepared by the state services, in perfect interdisciplinarity around the prefects. We must be extremely attentive to the way in which the story of these children is written because they will grow, become adults and one day have their own children before whom they will have to answer for their history.

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